Transcript - Education Research for the Capstone - Aug 21 2019
Video Link: https://youtu.be/eRrF4AMGtzE
Education Research for the Capstone
>> KIM BURTON:
And welcome everybody to the Education Research for the Capstone. Tonight we will talk about doctoral scholarship. And then explore some advanced research techniques and strategies and resources that we have in the library. But before I do that, we need to talk about what is expected of you as a doctoral scholar.
Expectations for you, for research at this level is usually a reliance on scholarly peer-reviewed sources, with an emphasis on the current state of research. This is within five years of your graduation date. It is the time for you to hone in on your information literacy skills. Information literacy is at it is being able to recognize when information is needed. How to find that information , evaluated to make sure it is appropriate for your purposes, and then to use the information effectively.
This can be taught at all levels. Elementary school, middle school and high school, and college. However, when it comes to this advanced doctoral scholarship state, there are more -- it is a little more detail. It is a different level of expectations, it is higher up at this level for you. You should be doing a little more than just the basic information literacy. So the association for college and research libraries has come up with a framework for information literacy in higher education. And this is how you should be looking at your resources and research as you are doing this process and going through the journey of writing your dissertation project study.
The first of which is that research as inquiry. You know research is an ongoing process and it is developing and changing constantly. Looking at scholarship as a conversation and when you have a conversation you will have varied perspectives and interpretations. You need to look at searching as doing your research as strategic exploration. Do not be afraid to go where the literature takes you and go into it with an open mind. Some students come in with a specific purpose that they want to do research on this specific thing but there's if there's no research on this you cannot do that dissertation or project study because a good dissertation or project study will be grounded in the literature.
Be aware that you might have to take a step back, broaden your perspectives and go where the literature takes you. It may not take you where you expect but it may take you somewhere to help you along the journey. Need to think of information as it has a value. There is a legal value, you have a responsibility to yourself and the academic community to credit your sources. And there's also a socioeconomic value here. Information can be used for social change or social justice which is important for Walden. You need to be looking at authority as constructed and contextual. You have to view experts with a bit of skepticism and be open to new perspectives. Finally, that information creation is a process and is happening at many different levels. And formats. It can be made in a social media post or in a blog. And you have respect for all these levels of formats but were also able to evaluate and pick the appropriate format and level for your use. We will show you where and how to find the research you need in the library.
Whether you are writing a dissertation or doing a project study, you will have to go beyond the resources that you have used to this point. You will need to know how to use these information literacy skills to find, evaluate, interpret and effectively use this information.
You will have to be prepared to spend time to explore the library, the library website, getting to know our resources and tools both inside and outside the library. And that is what we are going to show you tonight. We will start inside the library. And talk about the education research page. This is the link to the education research page and I will show you how to get there from the library website. If you go to the subject resources box, you can click on select a subject and education.
I recommend you bookmark this page. It is your jumping off point for doing research in the field of education from the library. You can see we have recommended databases education journals and books. And if you scroll on further to "research help" we have more specific research for you such as doing research on that literature review, finding theories and theorists, finding methodology statistics, all in the field of education. So do not be afraid to scroll down and explore some of these resources.
I'm going to jump into one of our databases and do some research. But before I do, I want to quickly go over Boolean operators. Boolean operators are terms the database can understand. They help create a precise and powerful search that will bring back a higher percentage of relevant results. Two Boolean operators will use most are AND and OR. There is NOT, and we can talk about that later on but I'm going to focus on AND and OR. Let's say I want to find people who like to have hot fudge and sprinkles on their ice cream.
That will be this overlap because they want both hot fudge and sprinkles. But now let's say I want to find people who like hot fudge and sprinkles and whipped cream, it will be this overlap. So even a smaller section. So what AND is doing is narrowing down your results, whereas OR can expand results, so let's say I'm looking for people who want hot fudge on their ice cream OR sprinkles on their ice cream. Instead of getting an overlap I am getting all of this and all of this here too.
I say I also want people who like whipped cream, then I will get ALL these people over here. So OR expands the searches. And now we will go into the database and I am going to show you how we can use Boolean operators to get relevant focused results.
We'll jump back here to Education Databases. I'm going to go into Education Source. This is one of our best bets for education research. It has a broad coverage of educational materials and a higher percentage of peer-reviewed journals than ERIC does. My topic tonight is going to be teachers attitudes on standardized testing. So what I have to do is take my topic and divide it into concepts. You can see the database is already set up with the Boolean operators.
My first topic will be teachers but one thing EBSCO started doing is, if I start typing OR, it will come up with other terms or synonyms for the search term. So teachers OR educators. Then in my second box I put, attitudes. In my third box I will put my third concept which is standardized testing.
Now I will check full text, this is great if you need access to the article right away but when you are doing research at the capstone or doctoral level need to be comprehensive and find everything out there so by unchecking full text you may get articles Walden does not have but that is okay. I will show you how you can get access to those articles. We definitely want to limit it to peer-reviewed scholarly journals. I do not have to worry about day because right now I'm not really looking for articles, I'm looking for search terms to add it to my search so I can be as comprehensive as possible. I got 100 results but I know that I can find more. I start looking on the subject lines. These are the tags that the database assigns to an article. I look in here for additional terms. I look in the title of the article to see if they have additional terms I may be able to add to my search. I know another term for teachers or educators is instructors.
I will hit, search, and since I added another OR, I should get more. Now I can go through and see if there are other terms -- I see there is educational test and measurements, so that could also mean standardized tests. So I can put testing them I can put that in here with an OR. We got 100 results. I can also click on the actual title. And this brings me to a detailed record or I will have access -- that is not a good example. I have a different result than I did earlier when I did this search. So when I click on the title it brings me to a detailed record. What is interesting about this is that sometimes they will give you author supplied keywords, these are terms they want you to know that their research is about. So sometimes you can find some really good terms -- you can see the other terms they are using.
I can just brainstorm and see if EBSCO can auto populate additional terms. So other Synonyms for attitudes are thoughts, opinions and beliefs.
Using the asterisk lets the database to only look for this root word so it will look for standardized as well as standard, it will look for test and testing, so I have all those different combinations, standard tests, standardized tests, standardize tests and standardized testing. Now we should get more results and we do, we have almost 2000 results. This is great.
I will tell the databases that I want these terms in the abstract. So if these terms, or the terms in here are in the abstract, I know that is what the article will be about. That brings us down to under 600. I can also tell the database to only bring back articles that when it finds times in the subject line -- so for these terms in the third box I will say I only want articles that have that as a subject, and hit search. Now have 325. Not limited to date yet. I'm still going through looking for search terms. And I don't want to lose search terms from historical older articles that might have historical terms I could use. For instance, English as a second language, that has changed to English learners or English foreign language learners, etc.
Sometimes those phrases still pop up in current research I want to make sure I am finding all the terms I can and adding it to my search. Another thing I want to look for is to see if I can find newer articles by doing something called citation shading. This article was published in 2003 so this kind of old. But the database has found it recited in 15 articles and if I click on this, it will bring me to the 15 articles. And since the first original article was published in 2003, all of these articles have to be published after 2003. My computer is going very, very slow. When I click on the link, I don't know why my computer is going slow but I would get a list of those 15 articles and I can click on them to use them.
The database will only bring articles that we have access to. but I will show you how to use Google Scholar to find additional articles that will cite this original one. Before we do that let's focus our results and to get to articles that we can use. That means articles within your anticipated graduation date.
On the left-hand column, I can change the date and it will update to all the articles that were published after 2015. And I think the database is freezing on me. I apologize for that. I think the EBSCO is having a problem. So I will not be able to bring up those results, that is all right. I am ready to move on. EBSCO is not working because it is a live webinar. Now I will go to how to find additional articles that cited that original article from 2003 by using Google scholar. But before I do that, does anyone have questions or anything you want to go over the I apologize that the database is not working out tonight.
>> ANNE ROJAS: I'm just glad I was on mute because I burst out laughing. No questions.
>> KIM BURTON: I did this whole thing today and it worked perfectly. We will ask this Google scholar through the Walden library. The reason we will do that is because you will Scholar will be linked to the Walden databases. So I will start off by using this banner that goes across the top of every website in the library, and click on, start your research. And in the search by database box, I will click on, Google Scholar.
This Google Scholar search box is linked with the Walden databases. So anything you search in here that Google scholar finds, if Walden has it, we will have, it will have a find at Walden linked to it. This is the article from 2003. That the database found 15 other articles and cited it. The great thing about Google scholar is that it is fantastic to find exact articles. There's just so much information in there. Found the article right away and it has the find at Walden linked so we know we have it at Walden. But I want to look at cited by 76. The database only found 15 articles that cited this article, Google Scholar found 76.
So now I can narrow this because I can click on this box that says "search with inciting articles" and say I only went articles that talk about elementary. Now it is down to 51 articles that not only cite this original article but have elementary in them. I can limit it to date if I click on custom range, I will put in 2016, you never have to put in an end date because it will search through the present. Now I'm down to 15 articles.
Now I want to access these articles. How do I do that. Look at the local find at Walden" link. I like to open it in a new tab so the Google Scholar result list stays the same. To find the at Walden in Google Scholar will bring into this page a list of databases where that article is located.
Then you will pick the database that has the best results. You can see the first two but I have this journal, but it is on a full text delay for 18 months. That means if we cannot access any article published by Cambridge Journal of education from these two databases until it is 18 months old.
So that would be January 2018. However, we can access articles from this journal through the present from Taylor and Francis. So that is how I'm going to access it. The reason there is this delay, is also called an embargo, it is put on by publishers. I think it has mostly to do with money, they are making more money through other paying subscribers than they are through the libraries. So they put an embargo on it that means you cannot access articles until they reach this certain age, 18 months, sometimes it is only a year and sometimes it is six months. But lucky for us this is available in Taylor and Francis through the present so if I click on that it will bring me to the full text of that article. New pickup while that is going on I will go back and talk about a few other things. You'll notice there are PDF links, sometimes you will also see HTML links, that means the databases found this article online for free.
A word of caution, if you have two options, use the "find at Walden". Information literacy standards that you are being held up to, information has a value. You want to make sure you are accessing articles correctly. Sometimes articles end up online in copyright violations so you don't want to access those articles. You want to make sure you are accessing articles ethically and you are citing all of your sources as well. If you only have a PDF link, you can see if it is open access.
Scholar Works, usually they are open access and this is probably a dissertation that is published open access at the school, that is why it is available online but if you have the option I would definitely go with "find at Walden". If you don't see any find at Walden or PDF link, sometimes if you click on the arrow key -- find at Walden will pop up. I don't know why it does this sometimes, it hides there. It may not work but sometimes it does work.
Another thing you want to look for is all five version so if you have a blank here -- we will use this as an example -- sometimes when you click all five versions, it will pull up every place that Google found this article, and you can look and see if there is a find at Walden or PDF link here.
Finally, the last thing about Google Scholar is it does not limit to peer reviews. So if you are looking for the peer-reviewed scholarly articles, you will have to verify the journal is peer-reviewed. To do that we will do something called Ulrich. I think I will use this article as an example. Peer-reviewed articles will come from a peer-reviewed scholarly journal, journal that is technically peer-reviewed. Any scholarly article they publish is considered peer-reviewed. So you have to check the status of the journal.
The easiest way to get the title of the journal is to click on the quotes -- you'll get a pop-up that says suggested formatting for different citation formats. Remember that this was input by a human and it may have errors, and I know this has errors because it is in Title Case and APA, the titles are supposed to be in sentence case. So be aware you should never copy citations generated from databases or online without going through them and confirming they are correct.
I'm just going to copy the title of the journal and will go back to the library website and from this banner that goes across every library page I will click on, start your research. Search by database box, right under Google Scholar, you'll see it says Ulrich's verify peer review. So you paste the title in here and hit, search. This will take us to Ulrich's periodicals directory. All Rex is not a database, it is a directory of periodicals or journals and just has information about journals but it is also the standard for peer-reviewed.
We want to find the journal title right here it is. We look in this column, it looks like a little referee jersey, and if you put your cursor over that it says "refereed". Another term for peer review is refereed. If that icon is there it means that this journal is a peer-reviewed scholarly journal and any scholarly articles that it publishes will be considered peer-reviewed.
So this article is considered peer-reviewed. And if that is what you are looking for, it would be appropriate for you to use.
I have links in the slide presentation where you can go to access Google scholar, the library glides and how to verify peer review.
The next thing I want to talk about his dissertations but I will pause for a minute if anyone has questions.
>> ANNE ROJAS: No, we are good.
>> KIM BURTON: Fantastic. Here is the link to where you can find dissertations at the Walden library. I'm going to go there now. If you click on W university library it will bring you to the library homepage and there's a big button for dissertations. Here we have Walden dissertations, all dissertations, and scholar Works. Scholar Works is the repository for Walden and where you can find all the peer-reviewed journals for schools, you can find publications from faculty staff and students. And also award-winning dissertations and project studies.
If you are interested in finding out what it takes to be an award-winning dissertation or project study, you can go to Scholar Works and look those up. All dissertations is not every dissertation, it just expands the search outside of Walden to any open access dissertations that are available in ProQuest.
What we will do is go into Walden's dissertation database. If you are looking up dissertations,-- first of all they are great resource, they can show you-- how dissertations and project studies are organized and how they flow. You can look at completed ones, that is your end goal, so you can see what is expected of you. It's also a great place to do reference mining. These are people that just finished doing what you are about to start. They have done a comprehensive search of the literature and have done it with the best resources to support their study, and most of them will be five years or less old. They are pretty much handing you on a silver platter all these great resources you can use.
So if you search for something close to your topic you can go through the reference list and see who they are citing. You can also search by degree. So if you if you are EDD, go to the index box and select the degree, do 2 years because you want the most recent in case something has changed in the template or format. So now we have the EDD dissertations are project studies that have been published in the last two years. You forget you can also search for PhD's in education. It is a little different. You can put your PhD in therefore degree, but you are going to want to put in: education as a department. ProQuest catalogs the dissertations, the library does not. So does not have an area or field for college. But I found that if you do search for education in the department, you will find dissertations coming from the college of education.
Now we will hit, search. We have 143. I'm pretty sure there's more, but this is how it pulled them up for us. This is a way to limit it to education, the College of education, dissertations, project studies. To confirm you can go in and see it right there.
I will do a quick search --something in here -- let's say we were talking about... Student success. We will narrow this down a little bit.
Let's say you are doing a dissertation and getting a PhD in education and your topic of student success, you can do a search and find other dissertations in this field and see how they are set up and organize. Since this is related because it is about student success, you can see what theory they use. And after that you can check out the methodology. The easiest way to do that is to go down to the table of contents. Here we have chapter 1, how it is structure, chapter 2, the literature review, it goes from page 28 to 77. Here we will find out what they use for their conceptual framework, we can scroll down -- page 29 -- sometimes you can click on it in a table of contents and will bring you right there, sometimes it will not. So you have to scroll down.
But here is the conceptual framework, so we can learn what the conceptual framework they used. And then see who they are citing, who is the seminal work, the original work, usually it is more than five years work. See what has been cited that is recent. And then you can go up to the reference button, and it will default to the most recent first. However, if you click here you can sort by author name and just click, sort, and it will list it by authors names you can find citations you are looking for. Or you can go through and see what they have here. Sometimes if the citation is not set up correctly you can see that it will not list the most recent first, so you have to scroll down a little. And once we get here, when the citations become more formatted you will see this is the most recent and onward.
A lot of times we have these articles and you just need to click on the "find at Walden" and sometimes it works, sometimes it does not. And it did work. So you can just click on, business source complete. I think this is over one year old so we should have access to it. There it is.
Now, if you come across something and it looks like we do not have it, I'm just going to grab this as an example. You can go to Google scholar and see if we can find it in there. I'm just going to go back to the library website and go to start your research, Google scholar. And I will search for that article. And it found it right away.
I'm going to click on related -- not related -- I meant to do other versions, there is no other version link there. So basically, it looks like the library does not have this article.
What you can do when that happens is go to the ask a library link and email us that citation. We can do more searching and find an online, maybe we can see if it is in a different database. If not, we will let you know. And we will send you to document delivery service.
Document delivery services a service library has for students and faculty. We can access it at the top, it is under services, for students, basically, if we do not have an article, we will pay up to 55 dollars to get that article. And then we will email it to you. it takes 7-10 days to receive the article, which will receive electronically. You will want to keep that in mind that you will not want to do this for a weekly assignment. But it would be acceptable for doing it for your capstone project.
We have that $55 pass, if it is more than $55 we may have to cancel your request but then we may be able to find it elsewhere so reach out to ask a librarian. There is a 30 article per lifetime limit, I don't want this to deter anyone, I've only seen it come up once or twice. I think both of those times it was faculty that had been doing a lot of research.
Those are some of the great ways you can use dissertations help your on research. And then how to find some of those articles in the reference list for these dissertations.
I need a slide here because I did not go through all the different ways to find a dissertation, so these are quick answers on how to find dissertations, EDD project studies, award-winning dissertations, and also how you can find dissertations by chair. This can be helpful because you can see what that chair expects of the students in a published dissertation or project study.
Anne, you have any questions or anything?
>> ANNE ROJAS: No, it is a quiet group tonight.
>> KIM BURTON: Okay. All right, so the next thing want to talk to about our general alerts and search alerts. It is really important for you to stay on top of the literature in your field. At the beginning when I was talking about information literacy I was talking about information inquiries and scholarship as a conversation. You need to be aware of what that conversation is in your field. Because part of the literature review is to show how you are contributing to that conversation.
The best way to do that is to know what is being published right now. And setting up alerts is a great way to do that.
If you set up a journal alert, next time that journal publishes an issue, it will email you its table of contents and you will have a link to all of the articles in that publication. You pick up a search alert is if you are doing a search and you are getting really good focused searches, you can set up a search alert to tell the databases to rerun that search every so often, and if they find any new articles they will email it to you. So basically the database will do a search for you and sending you the articles. Let me show you how to do that. You need to -- you may have to set up an account with the database that provides us access to the journal or the search that you did.
I will show you an example. First, let's go to a journal alert. If you have a title of a journal, so you are doing research and you are getting articles out of the same journal you may want to set up an alert for that journal. From the library website you click on the journals button and type in the name of the title of a journal in here.
If you do not have a specific journal, you can browse the journals by discipline, by clicking on that link. Let me just type in the American Journal of education, since the website is not cooperating.
This might be an EBSCO thing -- and our journals search through EBSCO.
From the library website I clicked on, in the journals I clicked on browse journals by subject. And now I have all the different subjects so I can limit it to education. From here I can limit it to peer-reviewed scholarly journals. You will see the library has about 1600 peer-reviewed scholarly journals and education. Now I can search for concept in the search box at the top or from the blue column on the left-hand side, I can pick a subject and so I will click on the, show more, and I'll get a pop-up screen. This is saying that out of the 1600 journals, 376 of the subject tag, education. 126 of the subject tag, higher education.
Let's say that I am interested in adult education, I will click update and I will see those 34 journals. And to set up a journal alert, the first thing I need to do is make sure we still have full access to that journal. As you can see, we do not have access to this journal anymore after 2006. A lot of reasons for that. The journal may not be in publication anymore, the database vendors may have dropped it. I really would not be able to tell you why, there are so many different reasons.
But the second journal, you can see when I click on the full text access link, and it tells me the databases where it is available, all the databases say it is available through the present. To set up a journal, I have to do that in the actual database. And I will do this in SAGE because EBSCO was giving me problems. I will click on SAGE. To set up a journal alert. Most of the databases require you to set up an account with them.
This is with the database and has nothing to do with the library. Just look for the sign in, and you can see here, you can create a profile. I already have one so I will just sign in. Be aware that every time you enter a database and you have an account with them, you will then have to sign into that account with that database vendor. Just going into the library and opening SAGE will not bring me to my account, I have to sign in again. So here is the journal. In SAGE, what I want to do is scroll down -- I need to click on the journal home button first, where it talks about the journal.
I look for the connect with us and you will see it says email alerts. So I signed up and it says add in new content or announcements. I'm going to click on new content so it will just email me when they have actual articles, and I have added it. This is actually in my profile, I have three journal alerts.
I will show you what will happen. This is an example of a journal alert, from the Journal of library and information services in distance learning. This is the latest issue they have and they just email me their table of contents. There is the note from the editor but then I have all the articles, direct links to them, so I know what the current conversation in my field is right now.
Next, I will show you how to set up a search alert. To do so I need to have a search. This is something I looked up. Let's change this to education leadership. I went education leadership as a subject term. I want peer-reviewed.
Let's say I did the search for educational leadership as a subject term. And I also have higher education there as a subject term. And I get this great result list some of this is a very focused result list and I can use every one of these articles. I want this database to run this search every so often and just email me when it finds new articles. To do that I will go over to the share and it says, email alert. EBSCO -- let me get out of here because in EBSCO you have to have an account. So let me sign in first. You can create a new account. I will sign in and it will bring me back to my search.
Now I know I am signed and because it says my EBSCO and I can see my name over here and I have my folders. So I click, share, email alert. I don't have to have it email me at my Walden email, I can have it emailed anywhere. I recommend having it set to HTML so you can just click on the results.
I don't run it every day, once a month is fine for me. Leave articles published within the last year because remember, some journals have an embargo and the articles may be a year old but they are new to the database you want to be able to make sure you are not missing those articles.
Once you do that, you click on, save alert. EBSCO will then run this search every month and send you the results.
I have an example of that. So here is a search alert that I have. It goes over -- this is an old when I pulled up -- but this is what I was searching, and it found 25 results, and it gives me a link to each one, a little explanation. It gives me a little -- the citation information.
Remember that the literature review is a critical assessment of the available research on a research problem. You need to know what is going on now, so it is very, very important for you guys to know what is being published now, even if it is not specifically on your topic because you have to say, this is what is being published now, this is how my research is contributing to the conversation, this is the unique aspect that it is bringing to this conversation. So you need to know how you could do that by knowing what is being published right now.
This is a link to the guide to search alerts. All databases have the ability to do this but they all look a little different. If you were in there and you are not sure how to set it up, all you have to do is go to ask a librarian and email us and we will get back to you.
I have additional resources on this page, link to the document delivery service that I mentioned, a link to the get help page, with instructional videos, we have upcoming webinars, archived webinars and tutorials. Information about staying organized. We have a citation management software guide and some videos. We also have a link to education literature review guide. This goes into further detail, the role of the literature review and links to most of the things I have talked about tonight.
That is bringing us to the end of our presentation. I just come again, quickly want to show you the quick answers and the ask a librarian from the Walden, from any Walden website.
In any library website you have this banner at the top and you can click on "ask a librarian". You can email us, we respond -- we are at the reference seven days a week unless the library is closed for a holiday. We respond within 24 hours but it is usually a lot faster than that. We have a chat, and this shows the hours when chat is available.
You can also call the librarian leave a voicemail. This voicemail will just go in queue with other the emails and we will respond to it by email. I recommend doing an email, I think you'll be able to tell us what your question is, sometimes the voicemail things can get cut off and we may not understand your question.
For more in-depth, you can set up a doctoral research appointment with either myself or Anne. you just select the college of education. Look and see what days are available. We have different appointments on different days. You can meet with us by telephone, by Zoom or Skype. I recommend Zoom or Skype because then we can share our screens.
On the ask a librarian side come on the left side we have a link to frequently asked quick answers. These are frequently asked questions so that if you have a question for the library, odds are someone has already answered that question so all you have to do is type it in there and you will see we have links. What is peer review? How do I find an article that is not peer-reviewed? How do I find scholarly, peer-reviewed articles?
You will have step by step links to other resources and information at the bottom of the screen.
Does anybody have any questions?
>> ANNE ROJAS: No, we have some thank yous, somebody did ask if we can do ProQuest alerts, and I just said that really, all the databases have those alert options. So, yes.
>> KIM BURTON: Yes, they do. ProQuest is actually one of the easier ones because you do not have to have an account to set up a search or journal alert and ProQuest. You can just set one up without an account. I think the only one that allows you to do that.
>> ANNE ROJAS: Yes, I think it is the only one.
>> KIM BURTON: If you do a search and ProQuest, it is really easy, it just says save search alert right there. Create alert. And follow the steps. And you do not need an account. ProQuest will email you, whatever email you put in there and ask if you really want -- do you really want to create this? And you confirm that you do, and then you set up a deadline how long you want it to go, six months or a year and before it runs out ProQuest will start emailing you saying your alert will run out in so many days or weeks, do you want to renew it? And then you just can renew it.
They all have the capability, but they all look different, so sometimes just ask a library may be the easiest way to find how to do it.
>> ANNE ROJAS: I was going to say since people were so quiet with questions tonight that as questions arise, feel free to use the ask a librarian to ask your questions. Somebody did ask about the recording availability. That email will go out tonight or tomorrow. It goes out within 24 hours. So that will have the link to the recording for you. So you can review things that way as well.
Otherwise, I guess that is it for questions.
>> KIM BURTON: Great. Well, thank you, everybody, for joining us from across the United States. Have a good night. And you will be receiving the recording, as Anne mentioned, tonight or tomorrow.
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