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Transcript - Mendeley Basics - Jun 26 2019

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Welcome everyone to the Mendeley Basics webinar.  I am Trish, and Lynn will be answering questions in the background.  So if you are putting any questions into the question box, she will be getting those answers for you.  And if there is something she thinks is useful for everyone to know, or that she does not maybe have the answer to, she will stop me and we will give you the answer to your question.


So tonight -- this really is a basics, so we will be looking at some general things about Mendeley, like where you can find common and useful settings in the program, how you can add things to the Mendeley library. Once you get them in their how to edit them.  And how you can organize that information so it is easier to find.  We will also be looking at how you can create in-text citations and reference lists in a Word document.  And Mendeley is a little different than some of the other citation management software programs in that it has a lot of networking type features in their online version of the program.  So we will be taking a look at that also because that is something different and something a lot of people really like about Mendeley.


Mendeley is totally free.  I have the link here so you can download that.  You can also Google "Mendeley" and get to the download that we.  There is a desktop and online version which coordinate.  You cannot download anything and only use the online version if you want to, but it is easy to download the desktop version and then you can sync it with the online version so you have the backup and the option to use either.


You will want to install the web importer, that is separate.  See you have to make sure you have that installed.  That way you can use that within whatever Internet browser you are using.  And it is much easier to say things and get them into your library in that way.  You will also want to install the citation plug-in, which will go into whatever word processing software you are using, so you can use that cool in-text and reference citation feature.


I have a lot of different mobile apps.  And that will be in the usual places where you find Google apps.  Google Play in those places.  It is free.  But you just go through that, those features.


You will also want to create an account online.  This would be where you would access the online version of Mendeley.  But if you have the desktop version you will want to do that just because you will be able to sync your information if you have some crazy catastrophic computer failure, that way if you have all your stuff in the desk top version you can lose it all.  If you set up the free account online with Mendeley, you can use the online version but you can also sync all your stuff on the desktop to the online.  So basically it gives you the option to save yourself in the cloud.  That way if you have -- heaven forbid -- some sort of catastrophic crash you will have that back up in the online version.


What we are going to do is take a look at how Mendeley is laid out in some of the navigation features.  I'm going to jump into Mendeley, so we can do that.


This is my Mendeley desktop library.  If you have used any citation management software before, you will see there are a lot of similarities between them, so if you have used Zotero or something, it you may look at this and think that it looks familiar.  The way a lot of the citation management software works is it is divided almost into three areas.  And you will see on the left column, it will be more navigation and organization features.  So you will see things like my library, all documents -- which is everything you put into your Mendeley library, there's an option therefore folders if you want to add folders to help organize things.  Recently added items so if you add things new Tranter member wait a minute I just added three or four things and I can remember what they were. 


In the middle section you will see all the things you have in your library.  If we scroll down through you can see quite a few items.  With this you will see information like the author, title of the item, the year, publication, journal etc.  You can sort this middle section by any of those, by clicking on it but now it is alphabetical by author.  And it will go backwards.  Starting with W in this case, I click and it goes back.  You can do that with the title section too, you can make it start with an A, alphabetically.  You can sort it by ear so you can find the current or oldest thing.


Those are ways you can manipulate this area to find things you need to find brick if you click on any of the items in the middle section, all documents, what will happen is you will see on the right side more details about that particular item.


So, you can see it is a journal article.  We see the title, the authors, the Journal.  If an abstract is available you will see that there.  If there are any tags that have been added to this.  Author keywords, etc.   So you will see a lot of more detailed information about the item here.


Couple other things to know -- some of the things that are in the toolbars.  On the top of the page you will see the typical toolbar, while, at view, edit, etc.  But there are a couple of features that are nice to know.  If you click on, view,  you will see a pop up box and there is an option year to look at citation style.  This will be where you will choose your citation style and you can see I have already chosen APA sixth edition.  That is pretty standard for Walden .  If, however, if you were at another university or after you graduate and you are submitting something to a publication that is using the Chicago manual of style or whatever, you can choose that and change the style.


There's another thing that is nice.  If you go down to, more styles, in that box it will open up another box and you can see highlighted: American psychological associations sixth edition.  Below that you see "include URLs and date access to bibliographies".  That is going to put URLs and that retrieved date in your bibliography if you -- if you leave it in the default.  What I recommend doing is clicking the down arrow next to the box and choosing "only for webpages" because that is more how APA does things.  I am not an expert on APA, none of the librarians are.  But I do know that date retrieved and such, is usually typically something you only one for webpages big so that will get rid of some of the wackiness that can show up in the reference list when we look at how to do that later.


>>       LYNN VANLEER:  We have a couple of questions.  We need to back up just a little bit to the download bit.  I have a couple of people wanting to know if it works better with a certain browser and if you know if it works with Microsoft Edge or IE?


>>      TRISH PIERSON: Edge is a little problematic sometimes.  Mendeley, typically, I would say, no, I would probably go in just to double check in some of their documentation to see if that has changed but -- uh -- the way that the Microsoft stuff works, it does not cooperate well with this kind of software.  It is just very problematic.  So what I would recommend is installing chrome or Firefox instead.  And using those when you are using this kind of citation management software.


  As far as which things it works better with, Mendeley really works with chrome and Firefox and Safari -- I know that.  People have used those and not at issues. IE and Edge... That is the place you will run into issues -- unless they have changed lately and I have not looked for the webinar to double check.  But I am going to guess, not.


>>       LYNN VANLEER:  I was just looking in the help guides looking for browsers -- but I put the link to the Mendeley help guides in the question box for everybody.


>>      TRISH PIERSON:  Great.  And I will show you where you can access those here too.


The next thing, tools.  If you click on that, that is going to be where you will install the web importer and where you will install the word processor program.  Mendeley is a little weird in that detects what you are using.  Since I have Word installed it is saying, oh, install MS Word plug-in and you see that it is installed.


I have it installed in Chrome but it knows that I don't have it installed in Firefox yet.  It's weird, it's almost like it's spying on you in a way.  Is figuring out what you've got and saying, no, it you need to do this.


If you have more than one browser you may see it prompt for install the plug-in even though you've already done it.


If you click on help, you will see help guides.  It will also tell you to the Mendeley website, the FAQs, you can contact support, you can check for updates.  So that help tab is actually really helpful.  And getting to the help guides on the Mendeley website can be a little bit roundabout, so you if you've got the desktop version open and you want to get to it I would just say, click stuff in here.  And it will open up a tab and take you right into that section of the website.  Super handy.  Get all your Russians answered right there on your Mendeley desktop.


Just a couple other toolbar things.  Below that, there are more icons with a toolbar.  The sync button is down here which is important.  If you got the free online account, which I again highly recommend so you have that backup, you will need to manually click the sync button.  There's no way to set up and auto sync.  It will make you manually click this.


You just have to remember when you are using the desktop version to click this before you close or a few times as you go. So you can sync to the online version so you have that backup.


Here's another little help thing and if you open that up it has some getting started guides.  Editing and things like that.  There's a couple different places to get to that help information.


Do we have any more questions?


>>       LYNN VANLEER:  No.


>>      TRISH PIERSON:  All right.  Then we will move along and jump in to one of the databases and look at how you add things from the database into your library.


I'm just going to go ahead and get into one of the databases and do a quick search.


We will get a search going here.  There we go.


Here we've got some search results and this is just a random search in a random database.  What I am doing here does not matter at all.  This could work in any database for any search at all.  We just need to get results from some place.


If you have the web importer installed, which I highly recommend again, next to the address bar on your browser, there is a little icon for Mendeley.  And this is the Mendeley web importer.  It is kind of like a weird polka dot N -looking thing with a red background.  If we click on that, it will open up a little box.  It is being very slow, of course.


And what this is going to do is allow us to choose items from this first search page.  Hopefully.  Oh, technology.  Let's see if we can just do a single one. We are going to click on just any title for anything in the search.  And go back to our little Mendeley web importer icon.


Here you will see what it has done is it is listing all the information for the article we have chosen and you can click on the, save, button and it will save this into the Mendeley library.  There is a little section, choose folders or groups, and we can choose the folder we want this to go into.  And I will just randomly pick one.  I will say we will put it into the folder for social change.


And you will go ahead and see that it has the little red check for reference, and you will see it has the red kind of circle with a X with it  in the PDFs which means it did not grab the PDF.  You will see something that says download PDFs available --that is one thing Mendeley will not do with the databases.   There are technical reasons why, basically we pay to subscribe to the databases and Mendeley says, no, I cannot get stuff from those subscription places.


I've had issues with that with free stuff online too, where there is a PDF available, pulling PDFs.  So I tell people just accept the fact that you are probably not going to have a describe a PDF -- you'll probably have to do that yourself.  We will look several different ways where you can add PDFs to Mendeley -- with PDFs are super important to you , this could be a deal breaker for you as far as choosing Mendeley over another citation software.


Let's see if it will cooperate now if we go back to search.


Here we have the search results, I'm going to click on that web importer icon.


Finally.  Okay.  Here, instead of seeing just the one item, because we chose one item earlier, you are going to see a list of the different things that are on the front page of this search.  So we could go ahead and click in front of the title in the box and just pick a few.  Or you could click on, all, and it will choose all of the items in the search.  And you'll see we can save.


Again, you end up seeing the little green checkbox for reference, because that is where it saved the reference citation information.  And the little red sad X saying we are not getting the PDF.  If you have any questions with that part of things does anyone want me to go back and do that again?


>>       LYNN VANLEER:  I'm not seeing anything just yet.


>>      TRISH PIERSON:  Is pretty basic.  Once you've got the web importer it is easy to do.  And it's similar to how other citation management software works.


We will jump back into Mendeley since we know we are not getting any PDFs.  So I'm going to show you guys a couple different options as far as getting the PDFs into your library.  All of them Sadly PDFs are going to involve you having to save PDFs on your desktop or someplace on your computer.


>>       LYNN VANLEER:  Is still easier than hauling those big bucks off of those shelves.


>>      TRISH PIERSON:  If you want to talk old school stuff, yeah, you're not photocopying the actual physical pages, so, yes.  Thanks, Lynn, for reminding us of that.  Also not having to use a card catalog.


>>       LYNN VANLEER:  It wasn't that long ago either. 


>>      TRISH PIERSON: You can see my little PDFs over here on the side.  there are several different ways you can get things into Mendeley.  If you have chosen the article that you want to add -- and we did social change -- or we have to sync, so I can see it.  Another annoying thing about Mendeley.  If you're ever, where is all my stuff?  Is not showing up.  You may have forgotten to sync.  So that we see many more things in this particular folder.


And this is the other thing Mendeley will do, if you added something new, it will tell you that your details need reviewing, and you can just say they are correct.  Otherwise you might look there and say, oh well, I don't know if this is all correct or not -- you can go back and check that.


What we can do is we know we have saved this PDF.  If you are on that right side with the detailed information, there is a section for files.  If you click on "add file", it will open up that little box where you can say, where are my files?  Look, here we go.  And I can choose that and I can open, and it will add it, just like you are adding something anyplace else.


Now it has this PDF file that is associated here.  It takes a few more steps, but you know the thing will end up in the right place.  You can just drag and drop PDFs as well.  Mendeley is actually pretty good about figuring out that you've already got reference citation information in there for a PDF so that is the case it will often connect those two things, so you will see it has added the file and it is showing up there.


If you have PDFs saved on your computer from before, and you did not go into the database and get all the reference information, you can drag and drop PDFs into your library as well.  We will just do that.  Drag over here and drop it.  You can see I added that in there.


And then what Mendeley will do too, it will search and try to find the information for the PDF and it is actually pretty good about grabbing the information it can.  So those are kind of your options.  You can drag and drop things in there and hopefully it will have the right citation information.  But if you really want to make sure it has the right information, I would go into where you click add file, and then add the PDF that you want, just to make double sure that it is in the right place.


>>       LYNN VANLEER:  Trish I have another question.  Someone wants to verify that Zotero does allowed downloads of PDFs from the library?


>>      TRISH PIERSON:  Zotero?  Or Mendeley?


>>       LYNN VANLEER:  Zotero, they are comparing it.  We have a lot of people comparing things tonight.  [Laughter].


>>      TRISH PIERSON:  Zotero does that because you can link to the Walden library.  And so, yes, it is much -- and Mendeley does not do that at all.  It does not let you do that.  No.


>>       LYNN VANLEER:  That is it.


>>      TRISH PIERSON:  So, Zotero has that weird little way of, there is a certain setting you can use, I'm not going to get into that -- different webinar


>>       LYNN VANLEER:  [Laughter].


>>      TRISH PIERSON:  And we do have a Zotero guide also.


>>       LYNN VANLEER:  And I will put that in the chat for everybody. back when Mendeley was a free open source software, it did that and then it was purchased by another company which was a super pricey -- not free -- no.  Also it does not always play well with others.  So they shut that down.  They stopped doing that.


>>       LYNN VANLEER:  Thank you so much.


>>      TRISH PIERSON:  Weird things to know about the politics of open source software.


>>       LYNN VANLEER:  One person went to see the drag and drop again of the PDF, if you can.


>>      TRISH PIERSON:  Okay.  Let's see if I can -- what it will do if I drag and drop something I've already -- So you just drag and drop something in here.  So -- hopefully -- there we go -- So, you see "effective coordination" and you've got the effective coordination of shared leadership -- It is pretty good at that, I've not had too many issues, I've only had a couple of weird things that did not end up at the right reference citation.  So, drag and drop is the easiest way.  And it's probably going to work like 90-95% of the time.  So I would just -- I would probably just do that because it is a bit easier, and just make sure you just double check that things are going into the right place there.


>>       LYNN VANLEER:  The student wants to know if you are dragging it directly from your desktop?  Is that where that was from?


>>      TRISH PIERSON:  I am because it was easier for me to put in my desktop.  But you can have it in another folder.  You can drag it from any place.  It does not have to be your desktop.  For the ease of the webinar, instead of having a million folders open, and then get lost in things -- yeah, the desktop is easier.


Everything I wanted to point out is once you have your stuff added, your PDFs added, all that great stuff, if you want to go and edit any information in these detailed record areas.  You can just click on any of those sections and it will allow you to go in and type.


Here this title is not quite in the right APA format.  So I'm going to go ahead and change that.  Because even though we told the software that we are using the APA sixth edition, it is just going to pull the information you have entered in here that has been pulled across from the database.  So it's awkward to change things like make the title -- automatically, if you have one where you have the capital letters, the Title Case, you will have to manually change that to sentence case, either here in Mendeley which is probably the easiest place to do it.  Or you can change it, if you are using a Word document in that reference citation.  But if you do it there it will only change there; it will change permanently and it will be set up the next time use it.


So it is pretty easy.  Just click on any of those fields and you can go in and change them.  And that is how that works.


The next thing we are going to talk about is organizing stuff.  Now that you have it all in here and you've added your PDFs and edited stuff.  So there's a whole variety of ways you can kind of organize things within Mendeley.  Some of them are pretty common to many citation management software.  As with the other software, anything that is in Neuro "all documents" is always in "all documents".  If you move things into a folder it is not like you are physically taking them out and putting them in another place.  All the stuff you've added in your library is always in this all document section.  The folders are just giving you a way to organize and find things easier.


So instead of scrolling down a giant list, so instead of trying to go through all of this crazy stuff and figuring out where is the thing I need, you can set up different folders.  So on that navigation, organization area on the left, there's a couple of in ways you can add folders.  There is that little folder with the plus sign on the toolbar.  You can click on that and create a folder.  Or you can go back to your documents and right-click there.  Or there's actually at the bottom of the list below my folders -- you would just go ahead and -- that you can see  you have that test folder showing up there too. If I want to put a subfolder within that folder I could right-click, new folder, and put "test two".  And you will see test and then test two nested inside that.


So you can organize however it works best for you.  If we wanted to go ahead and drag some things from all documents into those folders, we could do that.  And even though we are dragging it into a folder it is still always going to be in that "all documents" view.


There we go.  Sometimes you have to make sure you really get it right over that folder.  It is now in the test folder but if you go back to "all documents" it will still show up here.  That is how the folder thing works.


Another way you can organize things is if we go back to the detailed record, there is an area where you could add tags.  So if you wanted to add a bunch of tags to things so you could find them better later, you can do that.  On the left side area, there is an area where you can filter, so you can filter by tags.  If you click the down arrow to get the drop down menu, you can filter by the author's keywords.  If you set up tags in those detailed records, maybe you've got stuff where it is referring to a certain theory or whatever, you can tag it that way and then you can filter by tags.


You can click on any one of these and it will pull it up, things that are tagged.  When will actually show you, showing documents tagged "poverty".  So now we are looking at things that are tagged in that way.  In that same detailed area, you can also put in notes if you want to.  You just click on the note tab. And you will see a contents tab next to it, that will only work if you have something that has a PDF.


That you can see you can click on, contents, and it is pulling out the different sections of the PDF.


That gives you some options there.


With Mendeley, if there are PDFs -- so we will look at that since we've got one with a PDF -- you can go ahead and open the PDF to read in Mendeley, and you can highlight things and make notes on the PDF document too.


And you can see what happens is the PDF is visible.  There is still the "my library" tab that will take you back to my library. You will now see that we are in the PDF, you can now highlight, you can change the color of the highlighting.  There are notes and things like that.  And this can be really nice.  You can do things with Mendeley where you can share folders with other people or group.  And if you have made notations and things like that in your PDF document, you can actually share those with those people.  So that they can see what you are highlighting.


I find this a little hard to do sometimes there we go.  You can click on the area you are trying to highlight.  Pull the cursor across.  You can change colors and do all kinds of crazy things like that too.  You can see there is something for notes.  And you can click where you want the note.  It has my name so if you are sharing documents with someone else you can tell who is actually leaving the note.


Now you see that there is that weird little icon indicating there is a note.  And you can see the note says, "note."  Your note would probably be more useful than that.  So there we go.


If we go here and click on the section 4, note, you can see it showing up here.


This is nice.  Not all citation management software does this.  So once you have the PDFs in there, if you really like this thing so you are able to highlight and annotate and things like that, the PDF, and share those -- that can be a really nice feature that Mendeley has, but not all citation management software has.


I click on the X on the article and it takes us back to the library.  Do you have any questions about that before I jump into in-text citations and reference list?


>>       LYNN VANLEER:  I do not.  We can move forward to the exciting stuff.  [Laughter].


>>      TRISH PIERSON:  Yes.  This is the part that everybody loves.  Okay.  So I have just randomly stolen some paragraphs from someplace.  Not even sure where.


This is totally for example here.  You're not worried about plagiarism or anything like that.  It is just how to insert in-text citations.  What you will do is once you have installed that plug-in for those -- the citation plug-in, what you'll find is in your Word document or whatever word processing document you are using, there is a tab along the top that has references.  If you click that, you will see there is a section 4 Mendeley.  And you can tell because it has that weird little M logo.


If you have used other citation management software, it will be similar.  You are just going to put your cursor where you want your in-text citation to be, go back up to the, references, tab.  Click on reference citation, here, it will let you type in something so you are searching for the author, title or year.  Let's say, search for 2019.


I could go ahead and click on what I want.  I could try looking for an author's name -- I am just randomly typing stuff in here.


Once you have all the stuff you are looking for, you can click on, okay.  And it will pop that in there and you would just go to the next area and hopefully you are doing this as you are actually typing and not just grabbing some random thing that you plagiarized.


We will click on, insert citation.


Let's grab a couple other things here.


This is how it works.  It looks like you should be able to go to Mendeley and look at things there but if you do that it will just take you to mentally.  If you click on, my library, it really doesn't do anything there either.  If you have things set up where you are sharing things with a group, you can find things for that particular group this way.  There's not a good way where you can view your library and decide to pick things from it that way.  You are going to have to know which authors you are looking for and title or something like that instead of randomly typing and stuff.


Am going to go ahead and stick a couple more in here.  Okay.


So we have some things.   Then what we want to do is typically you will have another page.


Here I'm just going to scroll down to get some separation.  Once you have all the citation information in, you would go back up to the reference section, where the Mendeley stuff is, and click on, insert bibliography.


It will pull over the information that we have for the stuff we have cited above.  So you can see it has put it in, hopefully APA format, that is what we told it.  Sometimes you'll findings because we did not go in and change all of the titles to the proper sentence case, that some of these are not going to be quite APA correct.


Again, I would highly recommend doing that as you put things into your library, either Mendeley or Zotero, or whatever, instead of having to go in and change things in this reference list.  But if you do, you just click on that and you could go ahead and change the case, and make sure you have things correctly APA.


Again, we are not the experts, so if you have questions on anything like that, we will always tell you to go to the wonderful people in the Writing Center who will help you with any of those questions.  Do we have any questions about how this works? 


>>       LYNN VANLEER:  No questions so far.


>>      TRISH PIERSON:  Wonderful.  I'm going to jump back into -- jump back online.  And I will show you what the online version of Mendeley looks like -- I have already logged in, so this is actually my account. You can see my name in the corner.


When you login you will see the "feed" that will show you suggestions of articles based on things in your library.  So, shockingly, I have an entire folder called permaculture. Also social justice and things like that.  You will see a lot of different suggestions.  You click on this to add something to your library.  These links that say, get full text -- people get hopeful with that.  But no, typically you will be taken to a publisher's website where they charge.  But don't ever do that before you check the library to see if we have something.  Do not overpay for things.  Always make sure we do not have it in the library first.  And if we do not have things in the library, you can get up to 30 items through document delivery.  So there are better options than paying.  I was telling people save your money for better things, like whatever life stuff you need -- do not pay for articles that you don't have to.  And the chances are good that there will be some what you do not have to do that -- never start flat out paying for this.   Always check with us first, and here in some cases you will see things like "view PDF" and you can sometimes get access to the PDF.  It is a little random, it searches all over the place but there's no place to tell it you are a student at Walden.  So you will see a whole lot of stuff here, which is great if you want to make sure you find all the things that we might not have in the library.


But, again, do not just go to the websites and pay for those.  Always, always double check.  Because we do not like people to pay for things if you don't have to.


The other thing you will see is you can follow people.  This is very social-networky, is the way I look at it.  And you will see people recommended because of things you will say in your library, as well.  So this could be a way to connect with other researchers.


You can search for things inside Mendeley, you can search for articles but you can also search for people.  People using Mendeley.  You can search by people's names or by topic area.  So if you are looking for researchers who might also be interested in something you are really interested in, you can search for people with that topic, and it will find researchers who said, this is an area I am interested in.


So this is something Mendeley does that a lot of other citation software does not.


If you did want to search for any of that come up here with these links where we have the feed that we are in, there is also a search.  If we click on that it will give us a search box.  And you will see papers as the default.  And that will be articles and reports, etc.  People is where you would search for people.  You can put in somebody's name or put in some kind of research topic you are interested to see who is also interested in using Mendeley.  You never know who you might find.


They keep expanding out -- they have the data sets, it may or may not be helpful to some people -- but now they have funding information -- this is one of their newer areas -- you can find some funding opportunities as well.  There are different things they are trying to build out and offer to people.


Under library, you can see here it is similar to what we saw earlier with the desktop version.  It is a little more streamlined, just because it is online.  But it is still "all documents" and it has the folders here.  So if we click on the social change folder we see all that stuff, all that we added in there.


If you click on any of those items, you will see on the right side, the detailed information.


You can go ahead and use the online version.  If your computer is at home and you are traveling and you're working away on stuff and you want to get into Mendeley, you could just sign into the online version.  And you could use that on whatever computer you are on.  So that is kind of nice too.  You have some different options as far as being able to use things in that way.


I'm going to get back into the PowerPoint.  Intergraph the stuff that is in Mendeley, because it is looking all over the place and it does not know you are a student and there's no way to tell it that -- what is in the Walden labor.  You do have additional steps.  On this last slide I have different links to information on how you can look to see, do we have a certain article available in the library?  And links here for document delivery, and a link  to the Mendeley guide as well.


We have a couple of minutes, so what I can do is show you a few of these.


The Mendeley guide, if you are on the library homepage, if you click on, library skills, that giant button.  You will see, build library skills.  And then link in the box for, library skills guides.  That will open the list alphabetically of all the guides we have for all kinds of things.  And you will see Mendeley citation manager there.  We also have one for Zotero.  For comparing and contrasting.


And then if you are looking for document delivery, that is going to be under the services tab at the top of any of the library pages.  And you can see student services and document delivery services there.  Again, this is where you can request things that we don't have in the library.  You just sign into DDS.  You would do that to register, you do that if you got a notification if they have an article in for you.  You have up to 30 items.  You cannot just go crazy and order all these things -- you have to be a little judicious.  But 30 items is quite a few.


And then if you are trying -- let's go back out to the library homepage -- if you're trying to see if we do have something, specific article in the library, this little, articles, button on the homepage, you can click on it.  And there are a variety of ways to search.  It will default to, title pics of you put the title of the article in here and click, search, it will look to see, do we have that article in the Walden library?  And if we do, you can get access to it.


You can search by do all I using Google Scholar, or you can search by Journal title.  So there's a variety of ways you can get to finding out, do we have that exact article here in the Walden library?


Do we have any other questions?


>>       LYNN VANLEER:  I had one a little earlier -- I think the student might be just a little confused, but I just want to clarify, the question was: if I both citation tools downloaded on the same computer, will they work together?  Or is there a need for a manual transition between libraries?  I wanted to make sure everyone understands, these are two different programs.  Zotero and Mendeley.  If you are using both, they are two separate freestanding things, is that correct, Trish?


>>      TRISH PIERSON:  That is totally correct.


I do have both installed on my computer.  What I do is I tend to just use Mendeley in Chrome and Zotero and Firefox.   But they do not integrate at all.  So if you are saving stuff in one, like you saved some things in Mendeley, they will not show up in Zotero.  There is no way to do that.  You can import things into another citation management software program, but it is kind of a pain to do that on a regular basis.


So, typically, what I would recommend -- try them both out to see which you like and then maybe stick with one over the other, at least for the citation part.  I mostly have used Mendeley in the past for all the sort of social network features.  And I use Zotero primarily for citations and for using it with word processing stuff.


So most of the things I have that I'm really using like that, I am using in Zotero, just because I find it works a tad bit better with our library.  But that is just my personal preference too.  Some people really like Mendeley and make it work for them.  And some people really like EndNote which is proprietary and you need to purchase.  So there are a lot of different  options out there.  I think it's really great if you just try them out and you see, probably one of them is just going to make more sense to you and work better for you and I would just stick with that.


But if you're just trying to get some networking stuff going on in six different people out there -- Mendeley, you could use it for that you can have both but trying to keep all your citation information in two places, that could get really


>>       LYNN VANLEER:  Yeah, that's duplicating work.  Hopefully that answers the students question.


If not, you can always contact us with "ask a librarian" and we can clarify a little more for a.


>>      TRISH PIERSON:  You can just say, you are at the webinar and you need Trish to answer the question.  And they will be happy to pass that along to me.


>>       LYNN VANLEER:  Just let us know if we have not answered that question.


>>      TRISH PIERSON:  We are just slightly over, so if we have no more questions we will end things so we can let everybody go off on their way to finish off the rest of your evening or night.


We will wrap this up.  Again, if you do have questions, you can contact us.  Like I said, we do not do the tech support stuff, so if you contact us with those questions we will just tell you to contact the Mendeley people again, the best way to do that is if you are in the desktop, just click on the "help" section and it will get you to tech support.  You can get there from the online version also but just clicking on that will take you right to where you need to be.


Thanks, everyone, for coming.  And we will go ahead and close things out. 


>>       LYNN VANLEER: Have a good night everybody.




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